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my mom (sorry, long)

post #1 of 10
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Ya'll don't really know me, I'm not a big poster. But I need some affirmation today. I just found out that I am pregnant with my 4th child. I am married to a good man/father, and we have 3 lovely, healthy, bright children, who are at times roudy and unruley, but they're just being kids. They are 9 (boy) almost 4 (boy) and 16 mos (girl). I work full time in a medical library, which I like but it's not a career-level job, and my husband works hard as a shop manager at a cabinet shop. Either of us could pursue higher-paying employment, but we lived in Vegas for 4 years, and we saw how materialism ruined lives, so we made a conscious choice to seek meaningful, enjoyable occupations - while of course being responsible. We have a small (1700 sqf) house on 5 acres, and a 3 acre lot about 10 miles away where we hope to build our dream house some day. For some reason I feel I need to tell you all of this - guess I'm trying to validate myself - who knows? I'm crazy and hormonal right now.

So, I told my mother last night about the baby, and she was (very typically) negative. "I don't know why you want to do this again, why you're doing this to yourself, why do you want ANOTHER child, you don't have room in that house..." The big issue for me is that she watches my kids (the 9-yr-old gets off the bus there after school) since my long-time sitter quit in June. She said she didn't know if she could last keeping them all. I told her that we didn't want her to feel like it was automatically her responsibility, that if she couldn't or didn't want to keep them, we'd make other arrangements. Then I said "ya'll had 4 and didn't have a big house or a lot of money starting out, and you made it alright." To which she replied "But *I* was HOME; no one else was caring for you all." What is that?? Like I can't have the family I want because I work?

So, anyway, I cried a lot last night. Not because I didn't expect this, but because there's still that little girl inside me that wants my mother's approval and acceptance, and it's just never going to come. I believe that she is reinventing the relationship she had with her mom with me (I've watched my husband's mother do this with her daughters - I think it's rather common actually). I've decided to ignore her negative commentary until she comes right out and says "I can't keep the children anymore." And until that happens, I'm just writing it off as her bad childhood resurfacing. I minored in college in Sociology - actually I wanted to be a social worker until I realized that I didn't like people much! And I'm trying to glean from my education some insight into the situation. My biggest fear is that I'll be doing this to MY daughter in 20 years!!! I'm a very active mother, I can't even begin to tell you the battles I've faught for my children, and I am more involved in their lives and care than a lot of SAHMs!! So, it's particularly hurtful that she's acting like I'm just going pell-mell into this without thinking!! BTW: I'm 35 - the same age as she was when she had her last (me)! Ideas, comments, input? Has anyone made it this far? If so, thanks for reading; I know it's long, but I needed the outlet.

Belinda
post #2 of 10
I am so sorry that you are having to go through that with your mother. I know that things like that do not help at all when you are pregnant.
I know how you feel as far as wanting your mothers approval because I do the same thing. I have also realized that my personal happiness and decisions are better for me than any one elses opinions. Don't get me wrong--my mother and I have a great relationship but we so still have our moments!!
I, unfortunatly, do not really have any advice for you other than just be happy with yourself and your family. It really sounds like you are prepared and ready to take on any challenges of having another baby. You are right--there are a lot of SAHM's that I have known that do nothing with or for their children. THere are also lots of working mom's that are able to take care of the home, kids and work all at the same time. It all depends on the mother's priorities and determination.

Good luck to you!!

Feel free to email or PM me if you would like to talk!!
post #3 of 10
I think most can understand you still wanting approval from your mother because deep down most of us still want the same from ours. I don't have any advice for you but it sounds like you know what you want and that you are prepared to expand your family, so don't worry about what others have to say.

Good luck with your pregnancy and I hope that things get better with your mom.
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks Lisa and Jen. I really do appreciate your replies and spirit-bolstering. I know on a rational level that I'm letting it affect me more than I should, but I'm not stable right now. I cried at the end of How the Grinch Stole Christmas the other night (Jim Carrey version), so that tells you my state of mind!!! I don't think that she realizes what she's doing; I mean, if that's the way you were always treated, it just seems "normal" to turn around and treat your own "children" (grown or otherwise) the same way. It's like this: they talked about visiting my brother in Dallas, and her first response was that she had to watch my kids. But I told her that I would take off work, it was cool with my boss, etc... After much hemming and hawing what finally came out was that she didn't WANT to go to Dallas until AFTER Christmas because she actually WANTED to be here for my son's b'day (21st) and my daughter's 1st *cognitive* Christmas. But it went through all this blame on her "having" to keep my children before she finally came clean. Which is SO like how my grandmother treated her. I think all I can do is re-write my own part in this play and try NOT to drive my kids nuts (or at least find a different way of doing it!!). Thanks again; I appreciate the open ear!!
post #5 of 10
I have to say that I think that you are doing just fine!!! It sounds like you are a wonderful, caring mother who tries to the best she can for the WHOLE family, not JUST the children. A lot of people don't look at the whole picture, they only look at what is best for the kids.

Trust me, I have a rather negative mother myself who likes to criticize just about everything. I have come to accept that that is the way she is, and to go on with life. I try not to let her comments hurt my feelings anymore, although that doesn't always work, she is my mom after all. It really does irritate me that the people who should love and support you the most in this world(family) can at times be the most hurtful and selfish.

Good luck with the situation. And CONGRATULATIONS!!!! on your pregnancy...we plan to have four children as well. I bet that we will have the same response. Oh well, as long as we are happy, I will try not to let anything interfere with that.

Thanks for sharing with us!
post #6 of 10

whoa! Take a deep breath!

Your mother made some negative comments about your pregnancy, and you're digging way back into her relationship with her mother and fearing at the same time you may do the same thing to your daughter 20 years from now?

Take a deep breath. Laugh. It's really unlikely these things will have such far-reaching consequences. No matter how your mother feels, the first thing you have to face is this new addition to your life. Why did your mother's comment about being home with you rattle you so much? Do you feel bad you're not home with your children? If so, you're got 8-9 months to work out a new situation--to work out with your boss a way to telecommute, to start your own home business, etc. Or can your husband work at home? With three-four young children, you may be better off with you or your husband staying home than putting them in day care.

If you have the credentials, both you and your husband should rethink your career strategies, at least for a few years. Yes, it's great to have satisfying jobs. But right now, with a 4th kid coming, you need to think how you're going to put food on the table. That's not materialism. And once your tiniest one is in school (only five short years) you can likely go back to your more satisfying jobs.

In short, your mother's comments may hurt. But look to see for a few moments if they bother you because you fear in some instances that she may be right. After that, concentrate on working out a plan for how your family will handle this, and look upon it as an exciting new time and opportunity for all of you. Good luck!
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

I appreciate your comments...

And I'm sure you mean well. But they aren't really applicable to my situation. What I was really looking for was input on how others have dealt with a chronically negative and disapproving mother/mother-in-law. And it's because I do look at my mother's history and seek understanding of WHY she does and says what she does and says that I don't have a hate-filled, resentful attitude toward her after a lifetime of this kind of interaction. The fact is, we, humans, act based on our PAST not our PRESENT, which is not a principle I'm pulling out of a hat but rather one taught to me in all those years of education. And I'm really not looking for advice on how to stay home with the kids or make more money; when I said we rejected materialism I didn't mean to indicate we were living on a dried-up plot of land in a dilapidated mobile home without running water and relying on the kindness of others to feed our growing brood! On the other hand, I turned down the invitation to join the Junior League (yes, really), and I'm not the working-mother-soccer-mom type. I just meant that I've done the lunch at the country club scene, and found it unfulfulling, so we're trying the road less traveled. And my mom doesn't get it, doesn't like it. She hasn't liked ANY of my paths! That's what I'm asking for input on - how to maintain perspective when the disapproval is from someone who you still have a child-like desire to please.
post #8 of 10
Belinda,
If you want the truth on how I handled my mother, here goes: She never liked anything I did - not the way I dressed, the way I fixed my hair, the friends I had, the guys I dated, the college I chose to attend, etc. I tried for many years to try and please her, but to no avail. Finally, when I went to college, I was finally on my own and began to realize that I didn't need her approval on anything.

However, I continued to try and have a civil relationship with my mother, but finally about seven/eight years ago, I gave up. There have been various times over these past few years that I have tried to once again start a relationship with her, but each time she has only continued her treatment of me, resulting in me once again stopping any communication with her.

I agree with you that our outlook on life and how we treat others is partly based on our parents - that's who we learned from as we were growing up. However, there comes a time in your life when you have the information you need and the ability to make your own decisions and you can't keep blaming anything you do wrong on your parents.

I'm not saying you're doing that because you state that you are consciously trying not to repeat your treatment by your mother onto your kids. I'm doing the same thing. I always say that my mother taught me how NOT to do things with my child and I guess that's one thing I can be grateful to her for.

I know your last comment wasn't directed at me, but I wanted to let you know how things are with my mother. Thankfully it sounds like your relationship with your mother isn't half as bad as mine with my mother and so it won't get to the point of non-communication.

So, I stick by my original comment. Believe in yourself and don't let what others say get to you - even if it is your mom. She leads her life without interference from you, so you have the right to do the same. Perhaps try talking to your mom and see if that will help? Tell her what you have told us and maybe she will understand and try to change.

I wish you luck in dealing with your mom. Believe it or not, I still have this need to please my mom, but I don't let it interfere with my life, my relationship with my child or my relationship with my husband. They are the most important things to me and what my mother has to say doesn't matter. It still hurts that we can't reach some medium ground, but life goes on.

Once again, good luck with your mom and I hope that you find a way to maintain perspective in your relationship with her.

And thanks for letting me vent a little on my difficult relationship with my mother!!
post #9 of 10
I can kind of relate here. The first time I told my mom that I wanted to start a family with Steve, she made the comment "I wouldn't if I were you because of the way the world is right now" (this is before 9/11). Deep down inside that really cut me!!! Here she is bragging about my sister's children and now I want one or two children and she is cutting ME down for wanting any!! I felt like saying if you don't like it then you are not invited into their lives!!! But my mother is VERY critical of ideas that are not her own.
I'm not going to let it stop me from wanting children! I believe once we have a child, she'll be there for us. This is MY life...not hers. I'm a grown-up now and whatever I do is what I have to deal with.
Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in.
Oh - btw...I admire you and your husband for preferring to work satisfactory jobs that make both of you happy!! Good job!! I hope one day I am able to do that.
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks

Lisa,
Thanks for your honesty. I don't think they do this to us intentionally, but how can they not see it? I think you're right that the only way to NOT internalize the negative energy is to simply block it out. I hope that it never gets to the point where I have to limit/stop communication like you have. But, the fact is that I have my own family now that I am responsible for, and that is where my first obligation is. It's just that in the moment, you feel like you're the only one who has ever failed to measure up to your mother's standards! (Especially when it's an emotionally-charged, hormonal situation!!) Anyway, I appreciate you (you all) letting me know that I'm not unique. And I think now more than ever that all I can do is just dismiss the negativity and move forward. I hope I remember all of this when my Sweet Pea is becoming a woman!!!

Cheryl, hang in there!! I wish you all the baby-making luck in the world! (I seem to have more than my share! My doc told me 5 years ago it would be difficult to get pg and this is my 3rd preganancy since then! When I called her, she couldn't stop LAUGHING at me!!!)

Thanks again,
Belinda
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