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post #1 of 18
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Brandon is really starting to do things that just aren't in his character. The only thing I can come up with is that he is just realizing that by mommy working that means every day, every week. We get them up early, at 6:00. It is crying every morning, and I know it is because he is tired, but lately I am getting like real deep crying and mommy don't leave me, don't go to work, stay with me, I want to stay home all day with you. It is making me feel awful every morning. Then the other night, I went to happy hour after work. John calls me at about 6:30, Brandon bit Justin bad. They were playing and then all of a sudden. He got sent to bed with no movie and no binkie. He has NEVER bitten anyone. He was bitten by a kid 3 times and one was really bad and he knows how bad it hurts. Bedtime has become a nightmare, which NEVER happened. It was always movie and sleep. Now it is a struggle. Crying, I can't sleep by myself, I'm scared, I want to sleep with you. I tried to reason with him, what is scaring you? I had to take all of his stuffed animals out and put them in the hall. He had 2 lights on and the TV and still said it was too dark. Last night at some point he woke up and came into our room saying he couldn't sleep in his room and slept with us. And to top it off, the last couple of days he has been having pee accidents, which he has again NEVER done and this morning he wet OUR bed.

I am really confused and concerned because everything is happening at the same time so I feel like there is something I just am not seeing.

Has anyone else had this stuff happen? Is it a normal almost-4 thing? Please HELP!
post #2 of 18
It defintely sounds like there is something going on. Part of it sounds like Seperation Anxiety, which is normal for kids this age. I go thru it with Ally all the time. He is used to having you home and is probably just starting to realize that this is a long term thing.

As far as the biting thing, it sounds like he is just trying to get out his frustration. Ally occasionally tries this with her brother when she gets really frustrated, but not very often. If he was never a biter, then I'm sure that's all it is.

I hate to mention it, but is there any chance that anything is going on at daycare? It could be just about anything and he just doesn't know how to tell you. It might be worth asking about. And ask if they have noticed any signs during the day of this type of behavior. If they have, then maybe you need to have him seen by a doctor, just in case. I don't want to worry you, but I would rather err on the side of caution.

for Brandon and for you. I am here if you need to talk, sweetie!
post #3 of 18
Signs of possible child abuse:

Fearful of adults
Fearful of going home (or to a caretaker’s house)
Irrational fears
Thumb sucking, nail biting, rocking, or uncontrollable crying
Constant anger or temper tantrums
Extremely aggressive, withdrawn, or overly compliant
Emotional neediness
Hurting him/herself or other children
Often absent from school or distracted while at school
Trouble in school
Low self-esteem, depression
Constant worrying and tenseness
child or child’s friend telling you about it, directly or indirectly
describing sexual acts
going to bed fully clothed
sexual knowledge or behaviour inappropriate for the child’s age
regressive behaviour eg sudden return to bed-wetting or soiling
bruising or bleeding in the genital area
sexually transmitted diseases
bruising to breasts, buttocks, lower abdomen or thighs
extreme attention-seeking behaviour
other behavioural disorders eg bullying, disruptiveness, aggressiveness

Honestly, I would be really worried. It could just be that he isn't handle the change very well and doesn't know how he should express his dislike/frustration/fear of the situation, but if there is even a remote chance that something worse could be going on I would do some checking up. Talk to other parents who use your same care provider, talk to your pediatrician, use dolls/toys and have him play" show me what you did today", stop into daycare(or have someone else )unexpectantly.....anything you can think of to try to find out what is wrong. With a 4 year old it's almost impossible to ask them point blank and get a real answer. Sorry he is having such a hard time, and I hope it's just because of the changes and not something more serious.
post #4 of 18
I hope it's just seperation anxiety
I'd have him seen by the doctor over the bed wetting anyway (he could have a UTI).
If you need to find out if he is being sexuly abused, there are therapists out there who know the right questions to ask kids. I would ask your doctor about that or even call child protection and ask them where you can take him for an assessment.
Please let us know how things go.
I'll be thinking of you
post #5 of 18
Jen, please don't assume the worst
The same symptoms could arise from other kids saying things that are scarey or even if he was accidently exposed to a scary movie or something.
Horror movies and scarey stories can really disturb some kids.
Take him for an assessment before getting yourself too upset. You WILL sort this out and he WILL be fine
post #6 of 18
My dd is younger, but she goes through periods of aggressiveness too. Maybe let him sleep with you for awhile or you lay with him until he falls asleep. You never know what some other kid has said that has hurt his feelings. Maybe a little special time with Mommy will help smoothe things out for him. Maybe he fears you are going to leave him for good. I hope you find a solution soon.
post #7 of 18
Hon its alwasy better to be safe rather than sorry. I would talk with your dr about the changes in his behaviour. I think you are right to have warning bells go off....and its only natural to worry about your child when they drastically change how they act.

I would also talk to his daycare and see if anything is going on there. how is he acting there? Is he happy there, miserable, mean, or does he keep to himself? Is there a child that is mean to him there? You never know.

Good luck hon and let us know hwat happens
post #8 of 18
Eek I certainly wouldn't jump to the assumption that he's being abused. Of couse as a day care provider I have a different view of things I suppose. I see kids go through a lot of changes as they work their way through the world. They go through weird phases and once we think we've got it all figured out, they find something else to do to make us worry. My guess would be that it's separation anxiety. It happens from time to time and he is still probably getting used to you being at work full time. I would definately talk to the day care provider. Sometimes our schedules get mixed up depending on the kids in our care and maybe his nap time is out of whack or something as simple as that. Good luck!
post #9 of 18
I would be very concerned if the centre hadn't contacted you if there were problems there.
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hi, ladies. Thanks for your comments and suggestions.

He doesn't go to a daycare facility, he is only one of 3 kids, my 2 and her son. One of the other changes which I forgot to mention is that the babysitter where he normally goes has been sick and the last week and a half he has been going to someone else. He isn't scared to go and once he gets there, he is just fine. I know he is tired in the morning, he gets up at 6:00 and I assume that alot of the morning drama is attributed to that. He is going back to the normal routine tomorrow. He hasn't bit Justin again, nor have we had any more pee accidents. He even pooped one day on the potty with the new babysitter, bringing her in to see how big it was. He is getting more attitude, especially when he doesn't get his way, but that is normal right? So I get the huff, and the arm fling and crying when it comes to that. I honestly don't think there is any kind of abuse going on, sexual or otherwise. I just think there has been so many changes in the last few months, and then with Cynthia getting sick, maybe that threw him. I will watch for other signs, but I think most have already gone away, thankfully! I was not around much this last weekend since I had company in town, and he dealt fine with that when I wasn't there, but when I came home, he was clingy and wanting me to stay with him. I am thinking seperation anxiety. I try to tell him everyday when I will be picking him up and that I am with him every night. Why he is scared in his room, I don't know, but I thought that was normal too. we let him sleep on the floor of our room 1x a week, we don't want it to be an every day thing. Once he is asleep in his room he is fine. It seems more like an attention thing again. He calls me up there about 100 times.
post #11 of 18
If he is anything like Drew, then it sounds like he doesn't adjust well to change. We have had this problem with Drew since he was little bitty. He didn't even like it when I rearranged his room. It sound slike he is probably just reacting to too much change all at once. I'll bet in a day or two he will be back to his normal, loving self.
post #12 of 18
It seems like he is having a problem with all the changes in his life. Little kids react to stress in different ways. I would try my very best to stick to the routine. He may need a few extra cuddles from you as well. Maybe some special mommy and me time alone.
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 
Brenda, do you know that I also rearranged Brandon's room a month or so ago, but he seemed into it and told me where to move things. Didn't even think of that.
post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 
Last night was awful. DH and I were going to Duran Duran so as soon as they got home from babysitter we pretty much had to leave. He freaked, crying he didn't want me to go, Brooke had to drag him up the stairs. He was fine after i left, but I felt horrible.

This morning, he was fine. In a great mood, laughing adn talking all the way to Cynthia's. Now I don't know if that is because he is going back to the original babysitter and loves it there.

Meagan, your probably right about Mommy and Me time. We have hair appointments tonight, and I'll be late, but I will make a point to watch Scooby Doo with him and maybe lay in bed and talk for a while.

See, this is why I need you ladies!
post #15 of 18
He sounds EXACTLY like the 4yo boy I have in my day care. He loves it here and always has a great time. This morning when his mom dropped him off he screamed and carried on and literally almost made himself throw up. I swear to God the very second his mom drove out of sight, he stopped and asked if he could play with Tinker Toys. Kids are masters at manipulating their parents! He only goes through this every so often. His Mom is totally stressed at work this week and has been working a few extra days here and there. I'm sure that's what is throwing him for a loop. I bet now that Brandon is back with his regular day care provider he'll be much happier.
post #16 of 18
Drew always says he likes it when I rearrange his room. But he always acts up a little afterwards, even now at 11. It's just the change that always thorws him. He is one of those kids that likes things to stay the same all the time and I bet Brandon is like that too. With all the changes he has had recently, I'll guarantee that is the biggest reason he was acting up like that.
post #17 of 18
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Just wanted to give an update. Brandon has been doing great. Even pooping on the potty every once in a while. Bedtime is still an issue but I think it is more that he will miss something than anything else. But he has been doing great at Cynthias, and is in a good mood in the morning and at night. It has been so nice!!
post #18 of 18
I'm glad he's doing better and everything has seemed to straighten out!
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