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Please...someone I have to know I am not alone...

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Ryan had a hard time listening when he was around 2 year old. Then things were great, now he is 4 years old & change.. and what the heck has gotten into this kid...


It all started last week, he just stopped listening, almost as if I am not even in the room period. Like I am talking to a wall. -OR- like I am talking to a teenager!!! I will ask him if he can hear me, Excuse me Ryan I will say and I try to say it calmly .. nothing,. THEN he starts not listening in public, he is out of control.

Restaurant last night - crawling under the table, throwing things, standing up, whining like you wouldnt believe (and that is every day )....running around practically knocking over waiters.... Ok,,, so maybe he is tired??? Excuse after excuse me and Dh have... but its a problem,

Gymnastics, running everywhere not listening to anyone - including the teachers (for the 1st time) Out of no where, opened the gymnasium door and ran into the lobby and HID so by the time I ran out there I had to LOOk for him. Put him in timeout. Didn't phase him. Oh, he must be hungry,,, another excuse.

Went to Lowes - he was just not listening there either. We finally told him if he did not listen, he wasn't going to toast marshmallows at his grandparents tonight... he was ok then for a little while but we had to keep reminding him.

Then, the straw that broke MY back ... Scott was upstairs with Aidan, Ryan was in the kicthen which is being remodeled and isn't safe so I went in to check on him and told him about safety and for now if he is in there to ask me or Scott to come in ... he tells me he is going downstairs to play so I am in Aidans room and Scott is in our room... and our security system goes off... RYAN WALKED OUT THE DOOR OUTSIDE ALL BY HIMSELF> I ran downstairs and outside and I couldnt find him, then I saw him in the backyard...

I never yell at him and I yelled at him so much and pulled him inside and told him how mad and scared I was that he did that, and why it wasnt safe - WHY DID YOU DO THAT!!!! He said he went outside to tell Daddy, he heard a chainsaw and thought it was Scott... it wasn't and regardless he can not just go outside by himself ... I also told him next time he does something THAT bad he will get a spanking... which is something I only believe in for emergencies....THANK GOODNESS for that alarm or we wouldn't have KNOWN we would have thought he was in the playroom. I told him and DH NO MARSHMALLOWS tonight, Ryan cried, and I told Scott I do not care HOW much he cries, not marshmallows, cookies, cake, or ice cream at his parents...
> Guess what? Talked to Ryan before and he had marshmallows.... THIS KID WILL NEVER LEARN IF HE HAS NO CONSEQUENCES

Have I mentioned the words and attitude coming out of him??? And I dont think this has anything to do with Aidan, he is all over with love for him and asking him to be everywhere...

Someone tell me if this is just 4 year old behavior???
post #2 of 15
Does he go to school full time?? He is a little young for that tho isn't he?

I was going to say my kids turned preety obnoxious about that age but we put it down to them being bored and needing to go to school full time which they can't do until they are 5 in NZ. They were being horrible little brats if the truth be known. All that pent up energy with no acceptable outlet. It sounds like he can't even go outside and run around when he gets "full of beans", our yard was fenced so they could run in and out and chase each other around or play on the swing set sometimes and that helped.

Sounds like he is frustrated and he is concentrating so hard on what ever it is that he has lost the ability to think about anything else.

I don't know how well he communicates (my boys were going thru speech therapy at that age as they had just started to speak english at around 3.5 instead of ''twin talking'' - so communication was a problem for us) but can you see what his problem is?? It may be something that you can fix, or you may just have to give him the "life's not fair, get over it" speech - adjusted to a four year old of course.

But You are NOT alone.
post #3 of 15
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I told him and DH NO MARSHMALLOWS tonight, Ryan cried, and I told Scott I do not care HOW much he cries, not marshmallows, cookies, cake, or ice cream at his parents...
> Guess what? Talked to Ryan before and he had marshmallows.... THIS KID WILL NEVER LEARN IF HE HAS NO CONSEQUENCES
Oh yeah and smack your hubby as well, and if the grandparents knew about the restrictions and deliberately went over your head, simply tell them that next time the situation arrives that he will not be going to their house as they cannot be trusted, he wll be staying home where you can keep an eye on him.
post #4 of 15
Yeah - beat Scott!!! I can't believe he gave in!!!

I'm sorry you had such a rough day. I can't believe Ryan walked outside! Good thing you have that alarm - eh?? That is SO scary!!!

Well, you know Kyler is having a hard time listening lately.
post #5 of 15
i hope this is a short lived phase for you!

i agree, scott needs a boot in the butt for giving in.
post #6 of 15
Did this just start with the remodeling? If so, you can have a talk with him when he is calm about what is happening around the house. A new brother and remodeling are a lot of changes for the little guy.

However, if it was going on before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe he sees the other kids at daycare not listening and getting away with it, so he figures he'll try it too. He may have to learn the hard way that what happens at other kids' houses is not going to happen at his.



to Scott and his parents.
post #7 of 15
jacob is doing the same thing lately... i get so fed up, but he just doesn't want to listen!! I'm hoping that it's just a phase!!
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks ... yes Maree he goes to daycare all day (which is like school) and actually Lenora, there are alot of kids there who are 'bad' as Ryan tells me.I hear stories all the time of the bad kids and the words they use - and how Ryan doesn't like those kids because they are mena, and then he goes and uses those words to us 'stupid', 'butthead', 'shut up' 'you are not my friend', and even now if he THINKS I am getting upset 'You are mad at me - FINE BE MAD AT ME I DONT CARE' When he is in timeout the names come the whole time, and we have to say he can't come out when he is like that ... I am ok when he says he is mad and doesnt like me for the moment, because he says ' I am mad, I don't like you right now but I still love you' but the rest has to go...

And... it has been goingon randomly for a few weeks, but only consistently since the last few days, exactly when the home renovations started ... I cleaned out that area last night so make it more kidsfriendly (at least for tonight) so he can be in there a little with us, but come Monday we will be back to where we started.
post #9 of 15
girl u not alone, that sounds like raymond too. i dont know if its with 4yr olds but yep he has a hard time listening lately and i too thought maybe it might be with Destiny being home or Raymond not going to daycare.. but maybe its the age. OMG, my husband always gives in too. it drives me crazy when he does that, cause raymond will run to daddy and half of the time he gets his way
post #10 of 15
Elizabeth has also started that back up, but she got a couple of spankings yesterday and she seems better.
post #11 of 15
You are SO not alone ! Jared is doing the exact same thing - I talk until I am blue in the face and have lost my voice on a couple of occasions. I agree - he's not going to learn until he has realized that his actions have consequences!

And slap the sh!t outta Scott AND his parents for going behind your back !!
post #12 of 15
I wish I could help ya hon. I know that Liz does the same thing right now and it is driving me nuts. I have found that she is good during the morning (sometimes) but by afternoon she has been replaced by the devil child
post #13 of 15
My son will be 4 next month and we are having the exact same issue. No matter what sometimes I don't think he cares about consequences at all. He is also very mouthy these days he even tries to SHISH me. OH LORD HELP ME! Just stay consistent and keep reminding him of the punishment. I have tried everything from grounding to talking to, spanking. I know what seems to be working is taking away computer time which he loves! You 'll be fine just keep doing what you're doing!
post #14 of 15
You could be describing Gavin when he was 3/4 years old. I thought for sure he had ADD/ADHD or something going on. I am not sure what to tell you. We were lucky enough to always have a fenced in area for him to run around in.
post #15 of 15
i am longing for the days when its warm enough...and dry enough for teh kids to play outside
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