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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ok, Austin had a incident in school today. I am not happy at all about what he did.
At recess when they were lined up waiting to go in, there was a little girl behind him and a friend of his behind her. Well they were goofing around (to make a long story short) the little girl bent over and Austin put his hand down the back of her pants, at her butt into her underwear.
I am so upset and embarassed. The school called me on their cell phone and told me what happend and that they were keeping Austin in the office for the rest of the afternoon until the end of school. They called the parents of the little girl and they know about. Austin has to apologize to the girl tomorrow, he has lost all recess privilages for the week and he is grounded from EVERYTHING here at home.

The thing I am not to keen on is they want Austin to talk to a social worker and find out "why he did it". Ok, i am furious about that, and Rich and I have discussed it and he wont be talking to any social worker about it. I get that the school has things they need to take care of but give me a break. They make it out like my kid is some sexual predator. He knows what he did was REALLY wrong because he was crying at the office and crying here at the house. I dont want some social worker talking to my kid to put crap in his head.
I have talked to the grandparents and Rich about it and they all say the same, no. I could see if this was a occuring thing with him, but it is not and wont be.

What would you do? Let him talk to a social worker or not, and why?
Thanks for letting me vent!
post #2 of 17
With it being the first incident, I wouldn't let him talk to a social worker either. Yes, what he did was wrong, but you know what? He's a kid. A young kid that has been reprimanded and should have learned that what he did was unacceptable. If it happens again (which I'm sure it won't), then I could understand. If he was 12 years old instead of 6, then I could see maybe having to talk to someone.

I'm with you on this ... it was wrong .. but I think they are making a HUGE deal over it! If it were my daughter, I'd make sure that SHE knew what happened was wrong too, but it wouldn't be a huge deal unless it happened again. I wouldn't expect or demand it be taken any further than that on a first incident.
post #3 of 17
Hon I'm sorry that you have to decide what to do.

My question is is the school REQUIRING him to see the social worker? I know some school districts require that or they won't allow them to return to class. If it's not a requirement then its up to you to decide how to handle it, I don't have any kids so I can't even fathom an answer to this. I'd hate for him to not be able to go back to class.

Edit: I was talking to my mom and she works for a school district...she says he may have to see the social worker because technically it's 4th degree sexual assault. I think that's a little extreme but it depends on how strict your school district is.
post #4 of 17
No advice, just
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Dawn you and I think alike, everything you have said, is what I have been saying to Rich and the grandparents. Austin knows what he did was wrong and is being punished for it.

Then my dad said exactly what Mel said, he may have to talk to someone. I really wish Rich would get his info right when he talked to the principal. He says now, I dont know if it is a social worker or what UGH!!!! I will wait till the note comes home tomorrow or wait for them to call me. I hope his teacher calls me tonight though. That way I can tell her everything and get it over with
post #6 of 17
I am not sure how I would feel about it iether. Like Mel said, he may HAVE to talk to a social worker because it technically is sexual assault, no matter how young he is. Part of it I think is the school covering their butt to make sure that it doesn't happen again.......and to ensure to the parents of the little girl that they are doing everything that they can to ensure that it won't happen again.

Let us know how it goes.
post #7 of 17
I am not sure about your district but many have a no tolerance policy for any kind of assault (which it is) even though he didn't KNOW that when he did it. Most likely was a dare or spur of the moment. I would think they would have to document it in case it was a recurring thing---which I am sure it won't be b/c he seems to know the seriousness of the situation now. Lots of places if the other parent pushes the issue it would result in a mandatory suspension due to no tolerance. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

Lots of times, I, as a teacher, have to force the issue b/c if I don't and the "victim's" parents do and it comes back on me. Like why wasn't something more done. Lots of times it is no big deal at school but when they get home the story blows way out of proportion. I think the school sounds as if it is trying to cover their behinds--which is not a bad idea. I don't think talking to a social worker is bad idea either. They won't be "counseling" Austin but just documenting that he understands and is remorseful. Talk that aspect up with him b/f he returns to school. Again,
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post #9 of 17
Ugh. What a predicament. The thing is , if this happened 10 years ago, it wouldnt be handled this way - but now-a-days things are different ...

I would want to make sure of WHAT the social worker will say -
post #10 of 17
I also would want to know what is going to happen with the social worker. If she is just going to listen to his account of what happened to verify that no actual assault or sexual advance was intended than I suppose I would be okay with that. If she planned on talking to him about sexual offenses or even how what he did was wrong and why I'd say no freakin' way. He is a little boy who obviously understands that what he did was wrong... he doesn't need to have it explained to him why or to be made to feel ashamed or dirty in any way.
post #11 of 17
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The thing that is really peeving me off is that Rich says, I dont know if it is a social worker or not. If it is, and it is not that he HAS to talk to one, then he wont be. But if it is just the school councilor(sp?) then yes I will let them talk to him. The thing is is that he is a 6 year old kid, being stupid and doing something stupid. Its not like he is some sexual pervert. I will just have to wait for a note to come home to see what it is they want him to do. I could definitley see if he was alot older or in highschool and touched a girl, that would be a huge deal.
He has lost privilages at school and at home, he even thinks he is grounded from easter He does know what he did was wrong and he was to apologize to the girl today.
As far as I am concerned it is end of story.


Thank you all for your wonderful advice and thanks Dawn for chatting to me
post #12 of 17
Anytime! You're always there when I need somebody!
post #13 of 17
What he did was wrong but why is such a huge deal being made out of it. He is 6 for crying out loud. Personally I think it sounds like he is being over punished. I would have made him write an apology to the girl, and had a talk with him about why that is not acceptable behavior.

I don't see why a social worker is needed. If it is mandatory then I would attend the meeting with him to make sure they don't take it to far.

for you!
post #14 of 17
He's only 6/7, I'm sure what he did wasn't meant to be bad. I pick up DD from preschool and everyday she hugs a few of the kids. And she hugs the boys to. One time she hugged the boy so hard he fell on top of her. Now I hope no one feels she's doing something wrong cause to me she's just a kid. At 6/7 I'm sure he knows what he did was wrong and just made a mistake. I wouldn't think he needs to talk to anyone.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
I have honestly been so stressed about this all day. Actually upset, almost in tears.
So as soon as Rich got the kids home from school I called him to see what the note said. Well there was no note. So I am assuming the school is just going to drop it. Which I hope. I totally agree with everyone here to. The girls at work to said do not have him talk to a social worker, sometimes they can make matters worse.
We talked to him yesturday really good about it. Today before school he said how sad it made him feel of the wrong thing he did. He apologized to her today and he said he had a good day. He was able to go out for recess, but he had to stay with the recess supervisor. He is grounded here now from just a couple of things. I told him how proud I was for him apologizing to her and knowing how wrong it was.
Ugh, I am glad it is over. To much going on this week, I cant take anymore.

I may not be on BBU as much, but I want to let you all know how much I truly appreciate your honesty and advice and friendship
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