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post #1 of 18
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My mom made my sister and me co-executrixes of her estate three years ago when she drew up her will. Had I realized then what she had done, I would have told her NOT to do that. Well, I have been to see an attorney about getting the will probated. I need to close out a bank account of my mom's that is in her name only, and I have to have the will probated to do it. I need access to the money so that I can pay off medical bills and other bills related to her house.
There is a clause in the will that states that Angie and I can act on the behalf of each other if one of is unable or unwilling to carry out the duties of executrix. The attorney said that since Angie is in CALIFORNIA and Mom's estate and I are in GEORGIA that it would be easier if Angie renunciated and let me handle everything. I called and talked to Angie about that. She jokingly said she wasn't sure, but then said it was fine and to go ahead and do the paperwork.
I met with the attorney, and during our meeting, I asked him what would happen if Angie didn't renunciate. He said that would (A) Be incredibly stupid and (B) make things complicated for no good reason. He told me to have her call him if she had any questions or reservations, and that he would tell her that doing this isn't about me trying to get anything over on her, it's about convenience and expedience, and that we would provide her with an accounting of the entire estate and how everything was liquidated.
After that meeting, TWO WEEKS AGO, I called her right after I left the attorney's office and asked if she was going to renunciate or if she had any reservations. No, she didn't mind doing it, she said.
I found out this morning that she got the paperwork. SHE IS NOT GOING TO RENUNCIATE. She would not tell me why, simply saying, "We need to do it the way Mom wanted us to do it." (FIRST OF ALL she and I have said time and time again how silly it is to say, "(insert deceased person's name here) would have wanted it this way." HELLOOO they are dead, do you think they care what we are doing here on Earth? Uh, no!
Finally, she said that she felt "nixed" because she got the package from the attorney and it said he was representing me. ??????
Then, she said that I had been leaving her out of the decisions about my mom's house. I proved to her that that was not true, thankfully, I have had witnesses whenever I have talked to the real estate agent about offers that have come in, and they have all heard me say, "Let me talk to Angie first before we decide anything or counter their offer." She finally admitted that I had not excluded her, but then FINALLY after she had hung up on me and I called her back and she acted like a total sanctimonious she said that she thought I would make all the deals, sell everything off, and then tell her after it was all said and done, so she feels she has to stay involved in order to have a say. s:
I have assured her and told her time and time again, regardless, with or without the renunciation, she will be involved, and I have told her I would NEVER make a decision without consulting her, whether I HAD to or not. She finally had to admit that she didn't believe me. I am just hurt, and I have cried and cried. I am an honest and trustworthy person, but my sister doesn't think so.
Now I know why she HAS to come here that week in June. She keeps saying, I'll be there in two weeks and we'll probate the will then. SEE? It all makes sense. Never mind that I have stuff to do myself that week, like tutor, VBS, and getting ready for my trip. OH NO. She has a plan.
I just talked to the attorney and told him that I want to renunciate. He said that we REALLY need someone here to help with all of this. I said, "Fine, you have her number, call her and tell her to put HER life on hold and get her BUTT here."
I don't get it. I am good enough to sit by my mom and watch her suffer, listen to her BEG for her life, I am good enough to do all the physical work, it's fine for me to put my life on hold for the vast majority of THREE years, but I can't be trusted to handle this? WHATEVER.
And you know, who has not been honest here? Who hasn't been communicating? She ambushed me with this today, and obviously she has felt this way for a few weeks now.
I AM THROUGH WITH HER. She can come here and visit. That's fine. But I won't invite her back for a long time, if ever, and I won't go to her house. I am DONE. I can only take so much SH*T before I have my fill, and I am more than full. In fact, this might be causing an overflow. I have so had it.
post #2 of 18
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Oh, the really hilarious part? The week she is going to be here--THE ATTORNEY IS ON VACATION! and the following week? I am on vacation. That will NOT be changed.
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post #4 of 18
That is unreal! I think she feels this way because SHE is the one that is not honest and trustworthy. If the roles were reversed, deep down, she knows how she'd handle it and it's obviously not the same way as you. What the hell is wrong with her???

post #5 of 18
It sounds like your sister is worried about getting her "fair share" more than doing what your mother wanted. I suggest that you stay involved so that you both have a fair say in whatever is going on. You don't have to deal with her directly, let her go through your attorney or let her hire her own. But I wouldn't renunciate.
post #6 of 18
In a way, this sounds like something my grandmother went through when her mother died. Her half-siblings came to her and told her they were entitled to their "fair share" of everything, and that she would have to sell the house and divy up the profit. The house had been built by her father, and didn't belong to her mother until he died - technically a "pre-marital asset", because her mother owned it before marrying the step-father (and father of the half-siblings).

Graciously, my grandmother agreed that everyone would get their fair share. At the next meeting they had, she presented the siblings with bills - covering 20 years of nursing care for their father (her step-father, who she cared for until his death), all the insurance, medical expenses, burial expenses, while giving each credit for their "fair share" of assets that were left (it still came out to a bill - not a lot of assets).

I would ask the attorney if he can do a preliminary accounting of the entire estate, including bills against the estate, burial expenses, etc., and send THAT to your sister. Let her find a lawyer to dispute it if she wants.
post #7 of 18
Good idea, Judy!

Maybe for some reason, she thinks your mother was some sort of a secret millionaire. People get ugly when money is involved.
post #8 of 18
I have to agree, she is probobaly thinking about the way she would behave and projecting it on you...
post #9 of 18
i like judy's suggestion

i hope this doesn't get too horrible before you get it finished Tammy
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
Exactly, Dawn. What the hell IS wrong with HER? I wish I knew.
Dawn and Heather, I agree. I think she knows that if she had total control, she would make decisions and never consult me. I would not do that, but she is projecting what she would do onto me. She doesn't know me at all apparently.
She knows Mom has no money. She saw all the bank statements before she went home in February. She is starting to question the bills that I have to pay, and I have already decided I am having Mom's mail forwarded to Angie. I bought big manilla envelopes today and am going to put all the bills I have outstanding (and can't pay because Mom's money is in an account I can't get to until the will is probated) and I am going to mail it to her. She acts like I am making up the amount of bills that are coming in, so she can handle it and see it with her own two eyes.
I don't know if I will renunciate or not. I would really like to, but the truth is, after this, knowing she has not been honest and forthcoming with me, I don't think I can renunciate and trust that she will have my best interest in mind.
I can see her paying herself a fee for executing the estate. or something ridiculous like that!
By law, she is a legal heir, so she should know that I couldn't keep more than half of anything even if I were the kind to try to pull that, which I am not and I wouldn't, but y'all know what I mean.
post #11 of 18
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I just got this email from her:

I am going to get the forms signed tomorrow and will send them in. I already spoke to the attorney.

post #12 of 18
Deal with her through the attorney and after that tell her that you'd rather not talk to her.

Sometimes you have to cut vile people out of your life. It's not always easy but you have to do what's best for you hon.

PM me if ya wanna talk
post #13 of 18
I guess she finally came to her senses and realized that this was going to be work not cash and prizes. When my grandma died, the whole family lined up for their share, but it turned out - at 96 - the nursing home got almost everything and there was very little left after expenses.
post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Grace
I guess she finally came to her senses and realized that this was going to be work not cash and prizes.
So, true, Lenora!
I called her after I read the email and asked her why she changed her mind.
She said that the attorney told her that he doesn't conduct closings where there the seller or sellers are not physically present, so she would have to fly here for the closing whenever the house sold. I don't know if it is true that there would be no other way, but the attorney was smart enough to know EXACTLY what Angie DID NOT want to do, and he got her where it hurts.
Truthfully, I also think, looking back on her comment about feeling "nixed," I think she thought that I was attempting to cut her out of everything and eliminate her as an heir. First of all, the documents the attorney drew up in no way said that, but I truly believe she thought that is what this was all about, not simply making me the executrix of Mom's estate and administrator of her will. Second of all, I would not do that. Once again, she doesn't know me, and despite what she SAYS, her actions of yesterday show me that she doubts my honesty.
At least the attorney talked sense into her, and now she will see--I AM a person who is honest and she will not be excluded and she will get her part.
I just want to talk to the attorney to see if she requested that I keep an accounting of the expenditures from this point forward. Which, in Mom's will, it was specifically stated that we did not have to do that.
post #15 of 18
Does she ALWAYS have to be so difficult. I mean for pity's sake your mom died, have some compassion for the situation.

I know she's selfish and just doesn't get how much you've gone through without her there.

post #16 of 18
You know, it might not be a bad idea to go ahead a keep an accounting of everything to give her at the end. That way there can be NO DOUBT in her mind about exactly what went on.

I hate to see you and your sister at odds like this. I understand how you feel, tho and I would be upset if someone was doubting my integrity, too! I just hope that when all is said and done that both of you will be able to keep in touch and maybe mend the fence, so to speak. One of these days she is going to regret putting you thru this.
post #17 of 18
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I know, I totally agree Brenda. The thing is, anyone who knows me knows a few things to be true about me:
I the most loyal person you could ever meet.
I am honest.
I am straightforward.
To name a few. So, this makes me feel like she doesn't really know me or she thinks that I am putting on a front. ????
It's so hard. I was thinking today about how messed up our lives were growing up, and I think it's just carrying over into our relationship.
I have tried. I don't know what else to do.
Do you know that when she left to go home, before my mom died, I hugged her at the airport and told her (my sister) I loved her. She didn't say it back. I don't get her!
post #18 of 18
Maybe the way she is acting is part of her grieving process or her grieving is affecting how she is dealing with you. I'm no expert, but you have done all that can. In your shoes, I would cover all my bases, do what has to be done and the chips fall where they may. She is just going to have to deal with all of this.
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