Ok how many of you guys would say that your kids are out of control and hard to handle despite all the efforts of disipline given to them?
My older two kids are horrible I cannot take them no place they have tantrums if they dont get what they want until they get what they want,they back talk they hit eachother and the adults they even curse.
I tryed everything from time outs to taking toys away to throwing toys away to beating their a$$ nothing works....
last month i beat my son sensless because he called his sister a effin wh***
so he tells me while im beating that behind "next time try harder if u aint gonna do it right dont do it at all and he was laughing while i was whopping him"
What kid does that??? 
My oldest daughter i swear at times she is the devil in disguise we get kicked out of every place we go even the police station....like really how the heck does that happen?
she yells she screams she throws things she is very aggressive when she does not get her way and has a nasty temper
she has been this way since very young i even had therapist for her at the age of a year and a half .
But see with her in school she is very bright she got accepted at kindergarden to a gifted program to learn all subjects in two major languages english/spanish and she does very well.....her teachers think she is a "SAINT" she only acts up in front of us her family and a few selected people,for the most part most think she is a good girl it is like she has a split personality or something......I mean does anyone have any ideas?
My older two kids are horrible I cannot take them no place they have tantrums if they dont get what they want until they get what they want,they back talk they hit eachother and the adults they even curse.

I tryed everything from time outs to taking toys away to throwing toys away to beating their a$$ nothing works....
last month i beat my son sensless because he called his sister a effin wh***
so he tells me while im beating that behind "next time try harder if u aint gonna do it right dont do it at all and he was laughing while i was whopping him"
What kid does that??? 
My oldest daughter i swear at times she is the devil in disguise we get kicked out of every place we go even the police station....like really how the heck does that happen?
she yells she screams she throws things she is very aggressive when she does not get her way and has a nasty temper
she has been this way since very young i even had therapist for her at the age of a year and a half .But see with her in school she is very bright she got accepted at kindergarden to a gifted program to learn all subjects in two major languages english/spanish and she does very well.....her teachers think she is a "SAINT" she only acts up in front of us her family and a few selected people,for the most part most think she is a good girl it is like she has a split personality or something......I mean does anyone have any ideas?





I do have my moments when I think the girls are in control rather than me, but I do my best to keep them under control. They may act up at home, but to act up outside of my house almost never happens. I'm gonna go through your post and offer a few suggestions, and I think Liz's suggestion of a parenting class is a good idea. I know that I have been to one, and read several books on handling spirited kids (My oldest daughter).
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