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She's still speaking right now - she didn't start til 10:30 EST.
She was starting to speak when I turned the tv off, but I couldn't stay up and watch it. Kyle and Travis both have stomach bugs Needless to say, there was too much going on for me to watch it.
post #32 of 54

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I watched her and thought she did great!! She and McCain have my vote. I'm going to try to watch McCain's speech tonight.

I wonder when the debates begin. Those are what I want to really see because these past two weeks have been more like pep rallies/get to know the candidates. They dig in deeper to issues our country is facing today during the debates.
post #33 of 54

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I watched the convention too
... a spirit filled, breastfeeding, hockey/military/special needs mom ... I love her as a person ... Is she the right person for VP? ... only time will tell.
post #34 of 54

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to you and your family, Tammy. I Hope no one else gets sick and the guys get well soon.
post #35 of 54

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I don't see what all the fuss is about with Palin having a pregnant teenaged daughter. In fact, it truly bothers me that ANY children of the candidates are bring dragged into this, at all. These kids have NOTHING to do with their parent ability to do the job they are running for. So what if her DD is having a baby? So what if her son has Doown's Syndrome? What do these things have to do with her political experience? Not a darn thing.

I am more concerned with the McCain/Palin agenda, of which I haven't heard any details yet. Then again, I haven't heard any details from the Obama camp, either. Like Cheryl said, I'm waiting for the debates. For the first time I can ever remember, I am going to HAVE to watch them to get a feel for the candidates that are running.

Personally, I can tell you that I will be voting for McCain anyway because I don't trust Obama as far as I can throw him. The man has less then 5 months experience in the political arena on the national level. He talks about change, but change what? Give me details! I can't stand his wife - she reminds me of another Hilary (sorry, Michelle isn't running and needs to stay out of it!). His kids are cute, tho!

McCain worries me because of his age. If he is elected, I am worried that he will die in office. Of course, that would give us our first female president, but not the way I want one. I so disagree with his stand on abortion, but tha'ts nothing new.

Frankly, neither candidate is rocking my boat. It's going to come down to picking the lesser of 2 evils - not the way I like to choose my president.
post #36 of 54

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Oh, and Lenora? Rick and I talked about the VA benefits thing. If you are referring to what I think you are, this would be for those applying for benefits - not those already receiving them. It's darn near impossible for them to revoke benefits once you get them. Possible, but really difficult. But I still don't think it will happen.
post #37 of 54

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That's good to hear, Brenda. Dh's claim has been before the board of appeals for two years now. They say they "might" get to it in another four months.

I don't really like either candidate as well, Brenda. Of course, I am not voting them to be my friend. I would feel a lot more confident if it was Biden for president and Obama for VP. I feel confident in Biden's abilities as VP or as President.
post #38 of 54

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Biden is sooooooo outspoken!
post #39 of 54

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I watched the convention too
... a spirit filled, breastfeeding, hockey/military/special needs mom ... I love her as a person ... Is she the right person for VP? ... only time will tell.

I hate to say it, but those first three words mean more to me than anything else.
Again, not voting simply because of my religious views, but as many of you ahve said, I don't trust Obama.
post #40 of 54

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Well that is kinda what I was saying Liz ... all those things about her make her a likeable and admirable person in my book but they don't make her qualified to run our country. I want to hear the views too and am waiting for the debates to make my decision.
post #41 of 54

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The reason they do mean so much to me is because it means she holds true to a lot of the same things I do. To me, it means that she is better for our country becuase of how she believes, what she believes in. Your religious stand points dictate much of what you do. In her case, how she votes on something, decides on something. Because she is Assembly of God, and I am too, ( if you take that it's true and she is devout) it means we have a lot of the same concerns, and that she will do ( or try to do) things that are in my best interest. OK.. I am not so sure that made sense.

Another reason I stay out of these discussions so often, I can't always get what I am thinking and feeling out into words.
post #42 of 54

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Shona, you said it very well, and I agree. The fact that she is devout tells me a lot about her character and about what she wants for our country.
post #43 of 54

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Also, Shona, watch your email. I am sending you something to watch. I think you will like it. It said so much to about Sarah Palin.
post #44 of 54

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Thank you so much Tammy!

Liz LOL when I wrote that other post it was the " a spirit filled" that I was talking about yeah.. see I should stay out of political discussions
post #45 of 54

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I agree with some of what you are saying Shona. However, you have the same beliefs as her and would take the same stands as her ... does that make you a good candidate for VP?
I want to hear more and read more of what she has done in office, how she has done it, and what she plans to do for our country ... knowing that she has her heart in the right place isn't enough for me to say she's the right woman for the job.
post #46 of 54

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Elaine, that's what I was saying earlier, it isn't JUST because of my religious views that I am voting for them. I've read on a lot of things she's done and, no.. she doesn't have all that much experience, however neither does Obama. And at least we don't have to question her nationality. Thanks Liz, I always end up feeling ignorant in these discussions lol. But I am probably done now.
post #47 of 54

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See I can say that although I do educate myself on a candidates political views, his or her religious standpoints on some major things come first for me such as--right to life. I will never vote for a candidate that is pro choice despite ANY other views they may have. I will also (and this is probably the biggest concern of mine at present) vote for a candidate that will not continue to protect the state of Israel. I believe that McCain/Palin will side with Israel and Obama with Palestine.
post #48 of 54

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I agree with some of what you are saying Shona. However, you have the same beliefs as her and would take the same stands as her ... does that make you a good candidate for VP?
I want to hear more and read more of what she has done in office, how she has done it, and what she plans to do for our country ... knowing that she has her heart in the right place isn't enough for me to say she's the right woman for the job.
I can only speak for myself here, and I have a lot to say on this matter. I will have to post most of it later, trying to get to the bank. But what I will say is that if someone truly lives their convictions, and we have a basis for knowing what those are, then yes, that is ONE reason to vote for that person. Palin has been a member of the same church for years, is active in her church, and by all accounts loves God and loves her faith and lives it. That gives me some comfort and direction in regard to her and how she will operate in office. Is that the only reason I like her? No, but its one of the big ones. More later.
post #49 of 54

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There is one thing that is really bugging me about people who are downtalking Palin. Some people have been telling the media that they don't like the fact that she is putting her career first before her children. EXCUSE ME????!!!!!???? THAT is a VERY sexist statement because NO ONE says that when a man runs for President or VP!!!!!!!!! I haven't heard anyone say that about Obama. It is JUST as important for a man to take care of their family as it is a woman!!!

There are many successful women out there who work and have children AND love them. It gets my goat when people think the woman should be quiet and just tend to the children, cooking and cleaning. HELLO...we are NOT living in the 50's anymore!!! Women are NOT stupid and know what is going on in the world. So it will be interesting to see in the debates of how McCain and Palin deal with the questions and issues at hand vs. Obama and Biden (one man/one woman team vs a 2 man team).

Ok...just had to get that off my chest.
post #50 of 54

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I agree Cheryl. I just had this discussion with someone the other day.
post #51 of 54

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Okay, so a few more things I wanted to say:

Along the lines of what Cheryl was saying, about how so many people are giving Palin a hard time because she should be home with her kids and not juggling such a demanding career and five kids, well, Nancy Pelosi has five kids and has flourished in a demanding career. I have never, ever heard anyone question her ability to do her job with the Democratic Party and as a Congresswoman/Speaker of the House while being a good mother to her five kids.

Also, so many people are questioning Palin's ability to do her job. I would like to ask all these people who are so concerned about this, what exactly are her duties and responsibilities as VP? Yes, if McCain passes away, she will be president, but other than that, what else is she responsible for? (President of the Senate, can vote if there is a tie in the Senate, but otherwise, it's left mainly up to the President--it's not like she is writing policy or deciding on where our troops go)

And, so what if she is weak on foreign policy. That's why a President has cabinet members. No one person can be an expert on everything. The key is surrounding yourself with the right people to get the jobs done.

Finally, back to the religious aspect of this. I like that she is faithful and reverent. I like that she has been a member of the same church for all these years. Knowing her faith is important to her is important to me. It reflects in how she conducts herself, and with that in mind, it means that I have some idea of what her values are, and how she will handle important decisions, such as how she will vote if the Senate is deadlocked and she has to break a tie. I am tremendously bothered by Obama's faith and his (former) church affiliation. You can't tell me, I will never buy the fact, that he did not know his pastor was so fundamentally racist and so tainted against America. Obama was a member of this church for 20 years. He had to know this was underlying. If he didn't, then I question how active in or attached to this church he really was, which brings on a whole new set of concerns for me. Why say you are part of a church if you aren't? But knowing what I know and based on what has come to light, my main question is, why would someone who loves our country be a part of a church whose pastor would feel compelled to stand in the pulpit and say the things he did? Yeah, that's a huge concern for me, and I am not ashamed to admit it.

Also, I am so tired of hearing how old McCain is and how he could die in office. ANY PERSON COULD DIE IN OFFICE, regardless of their age. My dad died at 54, his brother died at 40, my mom died at 64, and my mom's dad died when he was 95. Age is not a sure-fire way to determine when someone will die. That said, worrying over McCain dying and Palin becoming President just does not concern me any more than if McCain was 50. I think we should consider this scenario with every President and VP regardless of the age of the candidate. People get cancer, they have car accidents, people have anyerisms, people have strokes, people have heart problems that are undiagnosed. Any President could die in office, not just a 72 year old. By the way, Joe Biden is 66! Not that much younger than McCain.
post #52 of 54

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See, those first three things are the things I want to ignore most and mean the LEAST to me. I want to know what her views are on this country, the military/veterans, education, the economy and the war in Iraq (not in that particular order)

That she has breastfed or that she has a special needs child or that she has a child in the military should have nothing to do with why you (I) vote for her (IMO). In my small little world, it's like saying you're going to vote for Obama because he's black.
Liz, I sooooooooo agree with you! I want to know how the candidates feel about the way things are in this country and how they think they can best make things better. I wouldn't vote for Obama just because he's black (or green or red) and I wouldn't vote for Palin just because she's a woman (or a man). Religious affiliation, color, marital stauts - what do those have to do with a person's ability to confidently and correctly run this country? Nothing, nothing at all. Just because I don't personally like a cnadidate doesn't mean I won't vote for them if I think they are the best candidate for the job.

What I want to know is where they stand on things like the economy, Iraq, new power supplies, what's happening in the mortgage industry, etc. I could care less what church they go to or what their age is orhow many kids they have. As long as they aren't child molesters or felons, I'll take a good long llok at their credentials and then make up my mind. But I am still leaning heavily towards McCain. Obama just doesn't have the experience.
post #53 of 54

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First, sorry that I edited your post. I didn't change anything - just hit the wrong button! LOL!

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Along the lines of what Cheryl was saying, about how so many people are giving Palin a hard time because she should be home with her kids and not juggling such a demanding career and five kids, well, Nancy Pelosi has five kids and has flourished in a demanding career. I have never, ever heard anyone question her ability to do her job with the Democratic Party and as a Congresswoman/Speaker of the House while being a good mother to her five kids.
Thank you Tammy And Cheryl! I have had this argument with more people than I care to think about! So what if she's a parent? McCain and Obama and Biden are all parents too and you don't see anyone questioning their ability to run for office and still be a good parent!

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Also, so many people are questioning Palin's ability to do her job. I would like to ask all these people who are so concerned about this, what exactly are her duties and responsibilities as VP? Yes, if McCain passes away, she will be president, but other than that, what else is she responsible for? (President of the Senate, can vote if there is a tie in the Senate, but otherwise, it's left mainly up to the President--it's not like she is writing policy or deciding on where our troops go)
Really, the VP doesn't do a whole lot. Presides over the Senate, and acts as a US ambassador for the most part, going to foreign countries to represent us or meeting with dignitaries when the prez can't. However, it will give her alot of experience.

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And, so what if she is weak on foreign policy. That's why a President has cabinet members. No one person can be an expert on everything. The key is surrounding yourself with the right people to get the jobs done.
Exactly! No president that I know of ever knew EVERYTHING they needed to know. That is why they surround themselves with people who are experts in their chosen fields.

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Finally, back to the religious aspect of this. I like that she is faithful and reverent. I like that she has been a member of the same church for all these years. Knowing her faith is important to her is important to me. It reflects in how she conducts herself, and with that in mind, it means that I have some idea of what her values are, and how she will handle important decisions, such as how she will vote if the Senate is deadlocked and she has to break a tie. I am tremendously bothered by Obama's faith and his (former) church affiliation. You can't tell me, I will never buy the fact, that he did not know his pastor was so fundamentally racist and so tainted against America. Obama was a member of this church for 20 years. He had to know this was underlying. If he didn't, then I question how active in or attached to this church he really was, which brings on a whole new set of concerns for me. Why say you are part of a church if you aren't? But knowing what I know and based on what has come to light, my main question is, why would someone who loves our country be a part of a church whose pastor would feel compelled to stand in the pulpit and say the things he did? Yeah, that's a huge concern for me, and I am not ashamed to admit it.
Now, here, I have a problem. What ever happened to the seperation of church and state? I don't think a person's religious affiliation should have squat to do with their campaign. However, the fact of the matter is that most of the people in the US have some type of religious affiliation and use this affiliation to some extent when choosing a cnadidate. I don't agree with it, but I do understand why they do it. I am more concerned the Obama was so close to a person who holds racist views - I don't care who they are (pastor, best friend or next door neighbor). The fact that the man was a pastor doesn't mean a darn thing. The only thing that matters is that Obama HAD to know that someone he claimed at first to know so well could be so racist. Apparently he didn't know him as well as he thought. Which makes me wonder how well he really knows all of the people around him right now.

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Also, I am so tired of hearing how old McCain is and how he could die in office. ANY PERSON COULD DIE IN OFFICE, regardless of their age. My dad died at 54, his brother died at 40, my mom died at 64, and my mom's dad died when he was 95. Age is not a sure-fire way to determine when someone will die. That said, worrying over McCain dying and Palin becoming President just does not concern me any more than if McCain was 50. I think we should consider this scenario with every President and VP regardless of the age of the candidate. People get cancer, they have car accidents, people have anyerisms, people have strokes, people have heart problems that are undiagnosed. Any President could die in office, not just a 72 year old. By the way, Joe Biden is 66! Not that much younger than McCain.
You may be tired of hearing it, but you should still be thinking about it. The main reason people look so closely at the VP nominee is because they potentially could become the prez. So you have to think about the fact that McCain is not a young man anymore. He stands a better than average chance of becoming incapacitated while in office. And if he does, is his VP going to be qualified enough to run the country? He has had some health scares in the past few years, although nothing serious. But still, it is something to keep in mind.

And Tammy, I wasn't aiming all of this at you. You just happened to have everything in one post, so it was easier to respond this way!
post #54 of 54

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No problem Brenda. I have thought about McCain's age and health, and it doesn't concern me any more than if he were 52. People can die at any age, and the fact of the matter is, I would much rather have Palin as president than Joe Biden.
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