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I have two stories to share with you because I am not to sure what to say about either one.

A friend of mine earlier this year got a new job, she had to go off her birth control since her health insurance had not kicked in and she was on liminted income. She is allergic to latex so she was not able to use condoms.

She told her husband that if they did anything in the two months it would take for her to get back on her BC then he would have to pull out in more then enough time. He said he understood this.

Well last month they got intimate and he did not pull out at all until he was completely done. She did not realize this until it was done. She paniced of course and told him that if she got pregnant that he would need to pick up a second job to help out (they are on a tight budget, much like all of us) he said that is fine that he would. She then asked him why he did not pull out like she had asked him to he says "I didn't fell like it, you are my wife I should be allowed to do what I feel like"

This upset her of course and she explained that they are on a tight budget, their son just turned a year old, and they live in a VERY small house. He just blew her off like there would be no chance that she would be preggo.

Well last week she called and said "Stacy I have to talk to you" I imedately knew what she was going to say. She is in a bad place right now because she is very worried about what she is going to do. Her husband don't even want to talk about it, he has also said that he decided not to take on a seconed job bc he is tired enough now as it is.

I have NO idea what to say to her right now to help her out. I just keep telling her that it will be ok and that I am here for her.

NEXT story this one is a little weird.

My husband talked me into going to his mothers house for Thanksgiving after she told us that morning she was actually having a get togehter.

She got a devorice about two months ago from her husband of only 2.5 years, so she is currently living with her dad. She told us about two weeks before Thanksgiving that she had a new boyfriend, we didn't believe her bc she is a bit of a story teller.

Well we get to her house on Thanks giving and there sits a man that is 25 years old just talking away. I thought that it was another one of Shane's cousins that I have never met before. We get settled in and she says "This is my new boyfriend Dave" I was competely stunned. Shane looked like he seen a ghost. It was a very akward moment. My MIL is 48. Now I know that age doesn't matter, but when you are dating someone that is younger then your youngest son (Shane is 28) whom you call your baby all the time. That is kind of weird to me.

Well about a half hour later my two nieces and nephew show up (her grandchildern from her oldest son (32)). She introduces them to Dave, and they all seem a little shocked also. Well my oldest Niece and my nephew are not the type of kids who are shy. But they were really quiet and shyed away from everyone. I went into the livng room to let Logan have some room to crawl around and here comes my niece (15) and nephew (12). Imediately my niece asks "How old is Dave" I said 25, she sits and thinks about this a minute and she says "How old is uncle Shane?" I said 28. Then my nephew says "Mami is going out with someone younger then uncle Shane and my dad? is that right to do?" then before I could say anything my niece goes "Eww Mami is almost 50, does Dave know she is that old?" They also asked about their Mami's other husband, where he was, what happened, and why she is dating someone already. I mean they were bombing me with questions that I didn't know how to anwser. They ended up getting called back into the family room, and I quickly followed so they would not have the chance to be asked anymore questions, or have to anwser the ones she shot at me already.

They left about an hour later and I thought I was off the hook. Well my husband and I leave and he says to me "What do you think about this situation?" I told him that I wasn't sure that way he could have his own opinion without being influanced by mine. I just said that it was his mother not mine, its going to effect you more then me. I'm not sure he was happy about this anwser but that is all I could come up with. Then I check my email and there sits emails from my niece and nephew about this new man Dave. I wrote back and asked them why they did not ask their parents any of the questions and they write back sayin they don't want them to tell their Mami about it, and would rater talk to me about it.

Ladies what seems weird or wrong to me, may not be wrong or weird to anyone else. I want all three to have their own opinions, but to understand the situation.

Any advice would be appreciated. I thank you all in advance.
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ok um.. wow. The first situation the husband is an ass. And that is putting it nicely. But, they will be just fine. As far as what to tell her? Beats me other than you love her and that everything will work out. George too has said something along the lines of you're my wife I shouldn't have too, but.. I will because we don't want another one now. ( Ok obviously the whole pull and pray thing doesn't work with us )
The second situation, it's good you want them to have their own opinions. My opinion is that hey.. ya know.. whatever floats her boat. As long as she's happy and all that jazz, but she needs to talk to her grandchildren. If her children have issues with it, they need to talk to her, but remember that she is not "old" she may seem that way to them right now, but she's still fairly young Better yet, have them watch "Flirting with Fourty" or "How Stella got her Groove Back" As long as she's happy, her children need to deal with it.
post #3 of 6

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First of all, Shona is right. Your friend's husband is an ass, a selfish, immature one!
Ask her if there is anything you can do to help her through this. That's what I do when I don't know what to do.
I agree with Shona about the second situation too. I would just encourage your niece and nephew to talk to their parents about it. Depending on how close you are to your BIL and SIL, you might want to give them a heads up and let them know that their kids have lots of questions and that they are coming to you with them, give your SIL and BIL the opportunity to go to them and just say, "How do you feel about Mami and her new boyfriend?" I would tell SIL and BIL to be sure not to let your niece and nephew know that you came to them (SIL and BIL), that way, the lines of communication will still be open. Obviously, your niece and nephew trust and respect you, and you don't want to lose that.
As for your husband, if you can't be honest with him, who can you be honest with? He wanted your opinion, you should give it to him and not be coy. Level with him. Tell him, this is what I think, but don't let my opinion influence you. Then ask him what he thinks, and let him know it's okay if he doesn't agree with you.
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My Mil is living with a man 15 years her junior, and we are all cool with that. Of course, it doesn't hurt she is very young looking for her age and he looks her age. Emotionally, they are the same age. My grandparents were 15 years apart in age. I have a friend who married a man two years older than her dad. But emotionally all these people are (were) at the same point in their lives. Personally, I don't think age matters a whole lot, but I can understand how this can upset other people.

This could be a temporary fling to make her feel young and attractive, or he could be Mr. Permanent. Talk it over with your dh. Talk can sometimes make people more comfortable with things. I hate to admit it, but I was very homophobic when I was younger (not implying this is in any way the same), but then I actually got to know some gays and lesibans. Now, I am completely comfortable with the whole thing.

Once you feel a bit more comfortable, then you may want to talk to your niece and nephew about it. For right now, if the topic makes you so uncomfortable that you don't want to discuss it with your niece and nephew, then be very honest with them. Listen to what they have to say, and if necessary, admit, you don't have all the answers, but that's okay. Some things just take awhile to adjust to and if they need an objective opinion or help dealing with this, the school guidance counselor is always an option.

When my parents got divorced when I was 19, my dad immediately started dating a girl in my class and going to the same clubs my sister and I went to. Fortunately, he passed through that phase and moved onto women of his own age. Your dh's mom may be going through the same thing. If it were me, I would take a wait and see attitude. She's recently divorced, this could be a rebound thing. Then again... who knows?

My mil had a terrible time telling us her future husband was so much younger than she was. But we were fine with it. The kids will call him grandpa and everything just like they call my dad's wife grandma. It doesn't hurt that he is completely bald!

Your mil has asked everyone to call him Dave, so the whole "what to call him if they get married" issue is solved. It probably took courage for she and Dave to do the whole "meet the family" thing, so I wouldn't pass this relationship off too causally.

As for your friend's dh, the whole pulling out thing has never seemed like that great of an option anyway to me, because as long as the tiniest amount of sperm may have popped out at any point in the process, she could still have gotten pregnant. I think you're doing all you can for your friend. Her dh may be planning on trying to find a better job instead of a second job. That's an option too, but maybe not a realistic one with things the way they are.
post #5 of 6

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all around.
post #6 of 6

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The first guy is simply being an @ss, plain and simple! Hd may come around, but it doesn't sond promising.

Personally, I couldn't date someone that much younger than me, although I oce dated someone the same age as my dad and it didn't even occur to me to worry about it. As long as she is happy, what's the problem?
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