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A little angry and hurt (venting)

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Apparently, my bil and his family did not like the Christmas gifts we sent them. It was a large box of things dh had made. His brother called it trash and nearly threw it away. He said the tie dyed t-shirts dh made for them were "rags". He made all sorts of vicious remarks about dh's appearance, his weight, his breath, every aspect of dh over the Christmas video call. And according to my MIL, they all had fun making fun of our gifts and then threw them in the trash.

Our gift was not trash. It was all totally gorgeous stuff dh spent hours and hours making. The t-shirts were not trash. They were Hanes Beefy T's 50/50s, the best plain white t-shirt available. With reasonable treatment, a Hanes Beefy T can last over 15 years. I know. I have 15 year old Hanes Beefy T's my dh made with his designs on them. These were nice shirts. I have seen shirts exactly like them at the mall for $30 or more. They were very subtitle. No loud colors. No hearts or rainbows or 60s stuff. Very professional. He designed them for professional men on their casual days at work. He has gotten a lot of attention for exactly that crowd, too!

My MIL told dh, she rescued the gifts from the trash and gave the "rags" to her boyfriend for "work" shirts when he does his woodworking projects! She actually asked dh why he didn't make them garish and loud. She couldn't see anyone wearing those "rags" to work. She said the loud colors were better for the professional environment. Dh laid into her on that one. He said bright, clashing colors might go in Hawaii, but on the mainland, people were expected to be professional.

Then she said, they weren't required to like his gifts. In the 15 years or more I have known my dh, he has sent his brother a gift for every special occassion and has never received and acknowledgment or a thank you. She defended every single mean, vicious thing dh's brother said to him and backed his brother up on it.

She acted like his brother was the one who should be offended for receiving such "trash" for Christmas! She is such an enabler!

My BIL is the CEO for a major restraunt chain. I guess he is too rich to afford some manners. I am so angry I want to rip them all a new one.

My dd's birthday is on Sunday and we are supposed to have a conference call with his mom. I don't want to. Dh doesn't want to. But the girls want to, so we probably will... Unless there is some technical malfunction which prevents it...
post #2 of 20
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Here is the email I just sent my MIL. I probably shouldn't have written it when I was this angry.

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Apparently, graciousness and good manners have gone out of style in Hawaii. The appropriate response when someone goes to all the trouble to give someone a gift especially one they have spent hours making with their own hands is:

Thank you.

Nothing more is required. This is the fashion and style here in West Virginia. In Hawaii insulting the giver and denigrating the quality of their gift may be in vogue, but it is not here.

Also, James making fun of Steve's appearance constantly is also not considered good manners here on the mainland. The proper thing to do if a person finds another person's appearance unappealing is to find something nice to say or say nothing.

I am so upset with all of you for treating my husband who not only made all those gifts, he literally went without sleep to mail you folks them only to be told they were trash and rags, I cannot explain it. Steve's work is not trash. It is beautiful. And he is a beautiful, generous, kind person even if he doesn't own a fancy house and is not the CEO of major company. When you love someone, that person's feelings matter. At least they do to me.

You folks really, deeply hurt his feelings. Do I need to say what the proper thing to say is when you hurt someone like that?
post #3 of 20

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i can't believe that they would behave like that!! for both of you!
post #4 of 20
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I can't believe it either. But I sat there with my own ears and heard one mean comment after another about dh's appearance. My MIL even told some of this to me.

You know, they've had it good this year while the rest of the family has had it hard. No. it is not required for people to like you or your gifts. It is also not required to give the mean spirited, ungrateful jerks a gift in the first place! So next year we will save our money. It costs a bundle to mail to Hawaii.
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My dd's birthday is on Sunday and we are supposed to have a conference call with his mom. I don't want to. Dh doesn't want to. But the girls want to, so we probably will... Unless there is some technical malfunction which prevents it...
I would set up the link for your DD bday, the first thing I would say to them is "The reception is bad at the moment, it disappears at the first sign of demeaning or hurtful behaviour"

At the first sign of anything that is at all demeaning to anyone in your family, pull the damn plug!! and keep pulling the plug as often as you need to over the next few months until they get the message. Don't even let them finish making the derogatory remark, talk right over top of them saying something along the lines of "Bull**** alert, Will Robinson" and disconnect.

Of course if they haven't got the message by next xmas simply block them from your MSN and Yahoo sites and they simply won't be able to get ahold of you without spending money on a toll call:

A: I think they sound to mean spirited to actually pay to be snarky
B: If they do call it is even easier to hang up on them

I thought your mother was bad, it's starting to sound like your mother and MIL are defective Stepford wives - their programming has gone horrilbly wrong.

I'm so glad the Steve has you in his corner, and I'm so sorry he needs someone in his corner so badly
post #6 of 20
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I know he is hurt and furious. But I think I am even angrier than he is seeing his family treat him this way. I told him his brother must have a really small Johnson that he has to berate and belittle his poorer, disabled brother when he is the CEO of a major company. I have been so mad I couldn't sleep. But you know these @$$holes aren't worth loosing sleep over. In fact, they aren't even worth correcting. But I knew if I didn't say something I would explode. Besides, when a person's own mother calls their artwork "trash" (especially when she is an artist herself!), she needs corrective action. Dh never says anything no matter how bad they hurt him Well, he was their family then, but he's my family now. Hurt him and they will answer to me. And they won't like it.
post #7 of 20

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I knowe exactly what you mean Lenora, I think sometimes mothers forget that "their baby boy" is now a grown man, a husband and a father and they need to treat them with respect.

I hope Steve didn't grow up in the same kind of enviroment they are subjecting him to at the moment
post #8 of 20
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He did. His other two brothers have grown out of this sort of high school behavior for the most part. But this brother has never left off being a junior high bully. It's pathetic when I think about it.

I spoke to Dad's wife about it. She said telling them off was useless because they will never change and that's a shame when she and his brother have someone who loves them so much he went to all that trouble for them. Well, he won't again.
post #9 of 20

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Lenora, once again Maree has said what I want to say and she said it so much better.
post #10 of 20

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That is so sad, I'm glad he has you to show him how a child should be loved and nurtured (even if you learnt how by doing the exact oppsite of what your mother did ).

I would be telling him to forget the dropkick's bday and xmas from now on, if he enjoys making the gifts there are several charities that take donations at xmas time so people don't go without a gift.

sorry Hun its 2am and I'm knackered so I'm going back to bed to see if I can sleep now (had the whole 'pain' thing going on and couldn't sleep before, so I got up, sitting up helps my legs, I have know idea why, but why mess with something just because you don't understand it )

You have a good day, stop thinking about the dropkicks, you are right they are not worth the time or the effort it takes to think out them, Give Steve a big hug from me and one for you to
post #11 of 20

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Some people are so ignorant and mean spirited. I think that that your email was very nicely worded and also got your point across. That pisses ME off for ya'll I hate mean people!!
post #12 of 20

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Wow and I thought that Jerrys family was rough.....
I would not bother with sending gifts out anymore. If they question it....tell them that obviously its not appreciated or wanted so why bother
post #13 of 20

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I would definitely forgo the Christmas and/or birthday gift sending form now on. I mean, it's fine if they don't like a gift, but to rant about it to you directly - and not in a tactful way - is just cruel. And you (and Steve) do not need that sort of cruelty, IMO - let alone pay for the privilege.

Continue to send them cards and pictures of the girls, and if the girls want to talk to them, don't interfere (but monitor what's being said - if it gets bad, cut that off, too). No need to punish the girls because the relatives are idiots, after all.

I'm trying to come up with something snarky to do, but alas, I can't. It's just not worth it, because it just won't have the desired effect.
post #14 of 20

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I can't say anything more than the others have said. I would love to meet these people and tell them off face to face for you.
post #15 of 20
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Thanks everyone. I am feeling better now. We won't be sending his brother gifts from now on. He never sends us any in return or even says thank you. Dh was trying to keep the arms of brotherly love open. But obviously, this is just getting him kicked in the chest. Since MIL sends gifts to the girls, we will continue to send her something. We were thinking of an Amazon gift card. No postage and no worries it will be stolen in the mail. Then she can get whatever she likes without the need to shoot the giver.

Dh will continue to send out his homemade gifts to the rest of the family. He enjoys making things and the others were over the moon about their gifts.
post #16 of 20

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it has all been said for me

i'm glad you are feeling better
post #17 of 20

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Maree says things better than I ever could.

However as someone who loves to "make" people gifts I learned along time ago - there are certain people in my life that will not appreciate them so I don't even waste my time making anything for them. I'd rather make things for other people than family that won't apprecite it. Benn there d-done that.
post #18 of 20
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Dh talked to one of his other brother's last night who was flabbergasted at the Hawaii family behavior. Normally, he sends homemade gifts too. He hasn't heard from the Hawaii crew at all this Christmas season. Usually, they call him on Christmas day to tell him they liked the gifts. This year - nothing. So now he's wondering if he was the butt of holiday scorn and jokes. Because silence usually means something really bad is going on behind your back which means someone is mad or worse.

the Wicked Witch of Hawaii and the Soda Jerk Monkey. We have better things to do.
post #19 of 20

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I'm sorry they did that!!! Everyone else has already said it all, and better than I could.
I was told that a hat and scarf I made were loud... How is grey with a little sparkle (really understated) loud? It sucks when you spend time making something for someone and they don't have the simple manners to at least pretend to appreciate the time if not the gift
post #20 of 20

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I feel for ya! This is the treatment I get from some of Rick's family. Hence the reason i am no longer going over there. Steve shouldn't even worry about it. He has you and the girls and 2 siblings who obviously DO appreciate all the time and effort he put into his gifts! Screw the hawaii crew!
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