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Would you consider this bullying?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Jessi is in the 2nd grade. There is a 5th grader that lives down the street and gives her a hard time. I'm considering going to her house this evening and talking to her parents, but wanted some advice before I start raising hell. I'll try to keep it as brief as possible.

At the beginning of the school year, this 5th grader was a safety patrol. She used to be really ugly and rude to the younger kids, especially Jessi and her friend Alexis. The safety patrol started sending home notes to us, the parents. The content of the notes was something to the effect of "I can't stand your child and neither can the bus driver. Control your child or else. This is your final warning".

She would push around the younger kids (not mine obviously, as I was the ONLY parent that bothered to walk to the bus stop every day). She would hit the kids (with things like a jacket that folded up into a little drawstring, if you understand that), yell at them, and litter in the neighbor's yards.

Finally, one day a few months ago, Jessi walked to the bus stop ahead of me while I fought with the boys. She was still in my sight, and when she got there, this safety patrol did the "talk to the hand" thing and put her hand up in Jessi's face, then told her to get away. Jessi tried to say something else, but she yelled at her "I told you to shut up!"

So I made a point to tell her that I was going to call the VP that day, since he's in charge of buses and safety patrols. I later found out that she approached Jessi as they were getting off the bus at school and told her that she'd better tell her mom to shut up or she was going to get it!

In the meantime, I had called the VP and apparently I wasn't the only one that felt this girl's power had gone to her head. Two days later, she was no longer a safety patrol. The next morning, I approached her at the bus stop and asked her if she had something she wanted to say to me. She was all in shock and claimed she was just upset because Jessi told her I was going to call the VP. I let her know that I *had* called them and I doubted she'd be a safety patrol much longer. I also told her that she needed to quit pushing the kids around and doing stupid things like littering, hitting other kids, etc since she was supposed to be a role model for the younger ones. I also told her she didn't have to like my child, but she did have to quit treating her like dirt. And next time I'd be having this conversation with her parents.

So for a few months, she's actually been nice to Jessi -- or at least just ignored her. This morning, Jessi walked down to the bus stop ahead of me again, with me only far enough behind that I could still see her. One of the other little girls at the stop had asked Jessi to bring her an Avon book because she liked the way one of the pages smelled or something. So Jessi goes to walk up to her, and the ex-safety patrol jumps in front of her, does the "talk to the hand" thing by sticking her hand in Jessi's face again. Jessi tries to go around her, and she blocks Jessi, with her hand still in Jessi's face.

She tells this girl that she had something for the other girl, so the ex-safety patrol YANKS the book out of Jessi's hand and throws it at the other girl. I WAS FURIOUS! I walked up and asked her if she had a problem again, and she said no, she was just helping Jessi out. BULLSH!T! I watched the whole event. I asked Jessi if she was like this to her yesterday (TJ was sick, so I stood in our driveway and watched the girls at the bus stop, which is 2 houses down). She said she was ALWAYS that mean to her.

Well, I'm tired of it. I know it's the end of the year, but this little b!tch has no right treating Jessi or any of the other kids like that! I can't decide whether to go talk to her parents this evening or just call the school and tell them my child is being bullied on her bus. Am I over reacting? I don't want to be one that calls and whines every time my child has a problem, but I can remember being scared to go to the bus stop when I was young because some of the other kids would give me hell and call me names.

Should I stick up for her, or just let it be? Jessi's not aggressive enough to take up for herself, so I'm afraid it won't get any better if I don't step in. Advice? And so much for being brief, eh?
post #2 of 19
Definitely bullying! I'd be calling the school and let them know there are still problems with this girl, plus go to the parents and tell them what's going on. She sounds like a real brat, and I have a bad feeling that the parents aren't going to do much about it. Anymore, it seems like parents don't want to take any responsibility for their little monsters.

Sorry, I don't have any real advice.
post #3 of 19
Step in before this verbal abuse turns physical. I went through some of these same things in school and I think that if my parents would have talked to the girls parents before she started hitting me it would have never happened you have a right to be mad and a big right to contact the parents and if they dont do anything the school school board and even possibly the police because this is considered verbal abuse
post #4 of 19
definetly bullying
post #5 of 19
Oh my gosh! That is awful!! I would definitley go talk to the parents and the school. Do you still have the letter she gave to Jesse? If so, show it to the parents and the school. This kid has no business talking to anyone like that! And if she is that nasty, can she really be trusted as a safety patroller? What is she is in one of her nasty moods and lets the kids cross when they are not supposed to.
I would definitley be worried to Dawn! And you would be doing the right think to report her.
Let us know how it goes.
post #6 of 19
I think it's bullying! What a brat! I think I would call the school and maybe visit her parents to. That child is out of control and Jessi has the RIGHT to feel safe.
post #7 of 19
I'd contact the school immediately and ask them to send a note home to the girl's parents asking them to contact you. This kind of crap needs to end !
post #8 of 19

Wwow!! I'm in shock. I don't know what I would do in your situation. I would have FLIPPED OUT!!!!!!

My first reaction is... I'd kill the kid who did that to my child. But... obviously that's over reacting.

I would definitely get involvoed. Whether it be talking to her parents or talking to the school. That is insane for her to talk to any kid like that!

What's scary is this girl is only in 5th grade??? Geez... what's going to happen when she hit's highschool???

to your daughter for having to deal with that!
post #9 of 19
That little girl needs a little
post #10 of 19
I agree. I would definitely call this bullying. If it's this bad now, it's bound to get worse if something's not done about it. What's she gonna be doing to little kids when she's in 8th grade if she's treating thm like this now???

Do her parents know about the problems and why she was kicked out of safety patrol?

Since it didn't happen on school grounds or actually on the bus, the school probably can't do much about it (at least they can't here in OH). I'd go to her parents, since they live in the neighborhood. You don't want her doing the same thing to other little kids.

I'd just tell them that you really hate to have this conversation because you want to have a good relationship with your neighbors, but here's the problem. xxxxx. You have witnesses, and I'm sure she's done it to other kids, too. It's been going on long. They may not be aware.

post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
I ended up having a talk with the father ... he was a bit upset that I didn't come to him the first time it happened because, as he put it, there wouldn't have been a 2nd time!

She came down and apologized to Jessi and me, then showed up the next day to help Jessi learn to ride her bike or whatever else she wanted to do.

I don't think they are going to be best friends or anything, but I think she'll think twice before she gets snotty with Jessi again!
post #12 of 19
WOW! I definatly would have done the same as you. I am glad that apparently her father took some sort of action.
post #13 of 19
Now THAT'S my kind of Dad !! Good for him !!!!
post #14 of 19
I'm glad to hear that her father was proactive about it. So many parents just let that kind of thing slide. I think I would have lost it if someone came to me and said Drew had been acting that way! There would have been a butt warming at my house!
post #15 of 19
Yep that is definately bullying....and obviouisly talkign to the child yourself is doing no good.

I would at least talk to the school
post #16 of 19
I am glad to hear that the father did something about it!
post #17 of 19
I'm glad the father was open-minded about it and willing to help!
post #18 of 19
Yep, definately bullying I'm glad that the father helped to stop the behavior, I hope that the child continues to be nice to Jessie and everyone else.
post #19 of 19
That is great hat the Dad stepped in and did something about it. A lot of parents would not have.
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